Anyone having extra difficulty forming or maintaining relationships, as a result of being committed in their spiritual work?

I'm experiencing multiple problems, in that most of the women that I'm meeting just don't want to deal with even knowing about what I'm into, much less experiencing it. They seem to just want "normal" guys that help with the mortgage, kids, and investments. Anything that might cause them to work on THEIR stuff is way too scary to consider.

Unfortunately, I seem to have reached a point in my "spiritual path" that just being in the room with someone creates spiritual tension and forces some level of "shifting" in them. It's a kind of entrainment process, that isn't conscious for either them or myself. It would be great to find an attractive woman, who's taken care of her body, and has some spiritual courage. That seems to be a tall order, at the moment. :-/
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    Re: Relationship Issues with being "Spiritual"?! ...

    Sat, February 2, 2008 - 10:41 PM
    Hey Patrick! How are you?

    WIth all due respect you must remember that everyone is mirroring what you believe to be true, and that your thoughts create your reality. Stop looking outside of yourself for the cause of this and take a good, hard, honest look inside at why you believe that you cannot meet an attractive, spiritually courageous woman who is willing to work on her stuff. I know for a fact that there are MANY attractive, spiritually courageous women out there (the tribe network is fiiled with them for starters)...you are simply not magnetizing them to you becasue of what you are projecting out to the world. By blaming the women in your life you are not living up to your own spiritual ideals and perhaps that is why you are not attracting a woman who is not looking inside at her own issues...because you are not. No spiritually evolved woman wants to date a man who is going ot blame her for his issues.

    One of the hardest parts of "being spiritual" in a relationship is you absolutely have to stop blaming other people for why you are not getting what you want. Even the most "screwed up, unconsious person" is simply a mirror for you to see what you believe about yourself and what you unconsiously think you deserve. You are creating your reality, so if you do not like it, then figure out how you can change your habitual thought and beliefs.

    Often we believe things at a totally unconsious level, therefore hypnosis and past life regression can be very helpful in this area. I would suggest finding a gifted hypnotherapist that you feel comfortable opening up to and take a look deep inside of yourself for the root of why you do not attract the kind of woman you say you want. Also the book "Ask and It Is Given" by Esther and Jerry Hicks is a an excellent channeled book that is all about the LAW OF ATTRACTION that will give you much insight into why you attract the kind of women you do. Again, you are totally responsible for the vibration you are putting out tho the world...the women you magnetize MATCH YOUR VIBRATION, which is the sum total of your thoughts, beliefs, and emotions around what you believe about women and their relationship to you. Maybe in a past life you married a woman who was a shallow gold digger who used you and you never really got over it. There are probably multiple reasons, multiple life experiences and past life experiences that cause you to believe you do not deserve a spiritually satisfying realtionship or that this is not possible. Heal your own unconsciousness. You will never get what you want by trying to fix somebody else.

    All my best to you Patrick! May 2008 be a year filled with love, laughter, playfulness, and magic!

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      Re: Relationship Issues with being "Spiritual"?! ...

      Thu, April 17, 2008 - 10:25 AM
      While I respect and appreciate your thoughts, Joni, the feedback feels both excessive and exaggerated. I said nothing about "gold diggers", for instance. I think that you were making a connection between the stereotypical woman who is after someone else's money and the women that I mentioned who just want money, period!

      Also, while I see some value in the Hicks material, I find most people (in Portland) to be fixated on what LOA principles can get them, materially. One of the larger promoters of this "goody grab" is Chris Tinney, a self-described "MLM Guru". While I am not one of those people who believe that you need to be poor, in order to be spiritual, I see the PURSUIT of wealth, money, and a cornucopia of possessions to be both shallow and "spiritually materistic".

      I disagree that we "create our own reality". As much as I know how pervasive this idea is, I align myself more strongly with Caroline Myss' stance that we are (at MOST) "co-creators" of our reality. As such, GUS (God/Universe/Spirit - take your choice) has the final say in what happens, when, and to whom!

      Finally, I'm not "blaming" anyone for anything. I was simply lamenting the lack of truly spiritual relationship partners, available in Portland. I don't count the people (women, in my case) that WANT to be spiritual without doing much, or any, work to get there. So, often it's a question of degree when looking at shear numbers. While I continue to work on my judgement - and the realization that I can't know another person's path or what they are being called to do - rank materialism is antithesis to spirituality in my view. Likewise, with people who are always looking to distract themselves with parties, exciting activities, and one social gathering after another. So, my dissatisfaction is based upon these observations and experiences.

      What often passes for spirituality is what I refer to as "the glow". You know when you meet people who have "the glow" - all "love and light", they exude a kind of narcotic warmth. It's a visage that is worn in a "fake it until you make it" style of behavior. I have seen this many times, myself. It's pervasive at places like New Renaissance, for example. Although I appreciate and respect anyone's efforts to deepen their connection to GUS, I admit a surprising lack of patience with the kind of "wanna be's" that exude the glow - rejecting the shallowness and inauthenticness of the attempt.

      As you assert, our searches are often LOA-oriented. I do believe that we attract those that either mirror our unresolved issues, or are put in front of us to provide opportunities for growth on both sides/people involved.
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